I'm looking at a very low hours year 1999 engine - maybe 250 hours. In the absence of the alleged memo clearly stating what you suggest, it seems you are expecting cradle to grave coverage for your engine, which is absurd. Ensure the arrows point towards the front of the engine. If I were in your shoes, I would cut my losses. Torque: 50 Nm 37 ft-lbs In sequence, turn each bolt an additional 90 degrees. The best way We use only the best components available and then make them better.
Refer to Notice Use the correct fastener in the correct location. I don't have the time to get into that whole mess. If you want another performance option, I'd take a hard look at E-Tec 225 H. Maybe a healthy 225 four stroke engine is in fact a good match for your boat? Especially since Tech Support finally told him about the Thrust washer thing. I commend them for their customer effort to solve the problem at their expense.
That said, please tell me why a piston ring, rod bearing or main bearing replacement is going to cost more on a 4-stroke. I'm not getting it - unless they are talking about some other thrust washer, not the one on the prop shaft. I think before you garner any support for your position, you should either put up or shut up. The left cylinder head gasket has the letter L stamped next to the arrow. There was a Honda Service bulletin for most of these built between 1999 and 2003 which covered a strip down and inspect and replacement head if required. Our extensive inventory of new and used parts means your job will be done quickly. However, a four-cycle motor typically has more parts than a two-cycle motor, and I suspect that disassembling and reassembling them in the process of performing a major overhaul may end up being cost prohibitive.
This is one area where the 4 stroke will have a lower parts count than the 2 stroke. Compression is at or near new on all cylinders and its had regular maintenance. Time to re-build i guess. Let him make your case for you. Apr 12, 2012 Hi there: Fig. That's ridiculous and inaccurate as hell.
These cracks may cause internal water leaks and reduce the performance characteristics. We remanufacture your outboard powerhead You might be asking yourself: why remanufacture my outboard when I could buy a new one? Do not use a bolt that is stronger in this application. You get some cash and move on to a new engine of your choice, he get an opportunity to make some cash with no worries. A dealer with a strong reputation and high level of certification will have more influence with the manufacturer. I also find it curious that no where else can I find others with this same problem. I have done the research and why I can't find a copy of an Internal Memo on the Thrust Washer problem with the 2002 Motor I know for sure they fixed in 2003 and beyond.
See my comments earlier in the thread in which I cite my conversation with Coast Guard personnel who told me of 2,000-hour or higher life spans. In specific, they mentioned four-cycle engines with badly worn cam shafts, so worn the lobes of the cam shaft were worn away. I was discussing this situation today with some professional master marine technicians, whose experience totals about 50 years, and they told me that they have had this same reaction from customers with four-cycle outboard motors. The taxpayers can't afford these high rebuilding costs! I am sure my situation is isolated but I still wanted to get a second opinion from you all. Maybe the new ones are better. Jim, care to tell us what techs said this and where this was said? Originally Posted by norvelplagbao52 1993 saturn sl2 1. So far he has not ordered the parts so I can call him today and have him stop.
These coatings affect fastener torque and joint clamping force and may damage the fastener. Cause A crack develops between the number 2 and number 3 cylinders allowing water to enter into thecombustion chamber. Or, should I just give it to him for a small fee and be done with it? Honda has an very good service reputation with all the products they produce. If you have previously paid for this repair, contact: American Honda Motor Co. If I were your mechanic, I would figure out how much I could reasonably sell a rebuilt 2003 Honda 225 for, back out the cost of replacement parts, my time to fix it and profit, and then offer to buy it from you for the difference.
New head bolts must be used when cylinder head isreplaced or re-installed to obtain proper torque. I do however have first hand knowledge of many that happily and routinely take advantage of trusting customers. What was your source or your mechanic's source for viewing the memo in the first place? Or are you passing on anecdotes from the shop? I will include that as well for both. Sounds like you have nothing to loose to try. If the correct bolt is not used, the parts will not be tightened correctly.
Fasteners requiring replacement or fasteners requiring the use of thread locking compound or sealant are identified in the service procedure. I can't say enough about what a great experience! It will always cost more to rebuild a four stroke than to rebuild a two stroke. Should I work a deal with him on the parts? TransAm: Well, I on the other hand would not be the least surpriced if story about the memo is true. What's the warranty on the re-build, 90 days? Their purpose is to maintain proper crank end play. We should not confuse sophistication with complexity.
Honda customer service tells me it will be like new with the rebuild and to go ahead with it. Some but not all manufacturers will take care of squeaky wheels with products having a known history of problems. It would be helpful if you would provide some additional information. I read lots of testimonials online before deciding to rebuild my power head. At Outboard Clinic, all powerheads and engine work is completed at our in-house machine shop. But a friend of mine here in Sacramento had a 225 Yamaha 4 stroke fail.